sand iron
12:46 Wed Mar 7
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The biggest mistake was meeting the board before the march.. Soon as they agreed to that meet then the board knew they'd won.
It was painfully obvious that all the hard work they'd put in, creating the unity they did in bringing thousands of fans together would all be in vain if they attended that meet..
I left a post on fb explaining the likely outcome if they went along with the meet & swallow replied 'if we don't meet the board now we might not get another chance again'... That would never of happened, they should of marched when they had the numbers & everyone onside, the board would have seen thousands of pissed off West Ham & knew they had serious problems on there hands..
Then the group should of said, right we'll talk now, if you don't then we'll march again & again untill you listen & act.. Even if the board didn't sit down with the group what difference would it have made to what eventually would have got or not got done?
The group by agreeing to that meet & calling the march off for whatever reason (I still can't work it out??) have now lost a once in a lifetime opportunity to bring that many fans together in a show of strength.. And when the board inevitably fail to deliver on most of their lip service promises, what wil be the groups next move then? Because one things for certain the thousands they had onside last week, won't be taking too much notice of any future action.
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Bullet
12:41 Wed Mar 7
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There must be other ways of demonstrating than a March? Hopefully someone will come up with something that doesn't COST anything (even black balloons cost and there would be the chance for someone to make money) and get the maximum publicity. No membership fees or ticket sales badges tee shirts or anything that costs. It needs to be relayed over social media as we have seen the power and numbers this generates. Facebook is the best medium doesn't cost anything to set this up although someones time of course. There own basic Wordpress or other website and forum linked would be good. They could make something to renumerate them perhaps by selling ads like on who.
Has to be something in the stadium on mass everytime the cameras are there for a live game. Would get more publicity than March because directly in front of LIVE cameras and can't be hidden. I have heard black balloons but this is over quickly, turning backs but for how long many may turn back around not practical. Storming the directors box or pitch will do the job but will end up with bans. A walk out after a few minutes sounds the best I have heard so far with empty stadium, but everyone needs to do it everytime there is a live match or just don't turn up at all at those LIVE matches. This still may not work if nothing changes but will at least be a start and get bad publicity for the midget.
I don't think the midget will sell until free of the 10 year government percentage on sale clause which won't be for another 7 years unless he feels their safety is threatened as at Birmingham, money to important although there comes a time when the financial gain is outweighed and no longer worth all the hassle and worry especially as age creeps up on you, although I'm not advocating anyone should cause any trouble of course.
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chelmsfordhammer
12:41 Wed Mar 7
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Northern , that was a brilliant article.
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Rossal
12:38 Wed Mar 7
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Thank you Sold
Terrific article, the thoughts of the last week and current feelings for many put down very clearly.
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Northern Sold
12:17 Wed Mar 7
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http://thehlist.blogspot.co.uk/2018/03/swansea-4-1-west-ham-and-other-ramblings.html
Superb piece I thought....
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Fo the Communist
12:09 Wed Mar 7
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More's the point, the board can't be seen to be speaking to a group that has openly threatened violence against fans,
They were probably walking a tightrope in that respect before all this shit given their history but once they started telling the world Khan was a cunt and that they would prevent a legal march they were finished.
It is all such a shame as they did a great job initially in achieving almost overnight what everyone else, including WHISA, had failed to do over a couple of years.
As I said before though, the RWHFs biggest strength was also their biggest weakness and didn't the board know it.
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Fifth Column
12:01 Wed Mar 7
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Norm
I defended AS and MM even AFTER they called the march off.
Then came the threats to their own fans and insane shit about Antifa etc. If they hadn't gone mad like that then you're right, they could still have had some clout.
The Club now know that they have burnt their bridges and lost a lot of support from fans that they will NEVER get back.
WHUISA couldn't march now anymore than RHF&Y"*$£ could have done without Council or Police approval.
The board are laughing at us and whilst it is 100% true no-one could have got to this point as quickly as AS and MM, it's also true that they have now fucked both themselves and all the fans. They only have credibility with the Board as long as all the fans are behind them. They can never claim that now.
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eastham75
11:52 Wed Mar 7
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The Only way left now is to Boycott the Game on Saturday, but I guess most wont want to do that.
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muskie
11:46 Wed Mar 7
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Norman just needs to take his tongue out of swallow's arse.
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North Bank
11:44 Wed Mar 7
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norman you keep digging out WHUISA but you have no clue what they have done or are trying to do, hardly their fault that Newham pulled the plug probably down to the contrived threats to a new march and Sullivan & Brady probably asking their old mucker Sir Robin to stop it
I'd hazard the reason so many got behind TRWHFG was because they liked the association with some wrinkly hoolies and believed they were now members of the Under 55's
Hopefully WHUISA can tap into the bitter feeling, swell their membership and take future action, personally I think that ship has now sailed and the West Ham we all knew has finally been replace by Brady's Arsenal light
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busheyhammer85
11:21 Wed Mar 7
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This has all confused the fuck out of me.
Not difficult to do, granted. But what the fuck has happened?
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Eddie B
11:18 Wed Mar 7
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Swallow and Micky had everyone behind them for the march, but they fucked it, and any leverage they had has gone up in smoke.
Sullivan and Brady must think Christmas has already arrived.
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muskie
11:08 Wed Mar 7
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Swallow's downfall now up to 10,000 views, starting to cause some mirth on Millwall and Chelsea sites, haven't looked on a spurs one yet.
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Eggbert Nobacon
11:05 Wed Mar 7
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normannomates 2:55 Wed Mar 7
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No I don't. .
Bully boy shit..and have told him so.
Andy and Mickey have got further than any others..and is not over.
they cancelled the protest with asking the fans they are meant to represent
they shjouldn't even be the ones going to meetings eith the club after that
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Tomshardware
10:10 Wed Mar 7
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I just spoke to Bill Oddie.
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BulphanIron
10:06 Wed Mar 7
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normannomates 2:55 Wed Mar 7
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Andy and Mickey have got further than any others..and is not over
It most definitely is over Norm, they’ve fucked it & any further chances of a march...
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claret on my shirt
9:50 Wed Mar 7
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normannomates 2:55 Wed Mar 7
I am pleased you told them, the moment they threatened all of us they lost any support from me whatever they have do.
I wanted to march, to show my anger and that's been taken away now. People are angry and people need to have a way to let that anger out. So many of us needed to March and Swallow has taken that away without talking to us.
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Mike Oxsaw
5:55 Wed Mar 7
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..."there is always more than one way to skin a cat. "
Indeed. The fat lady ain't even got out of bed yet.
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ChesterRd
3:11 Wed Mar 7
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Proactively WHUISA had met with the club in their own right prior to the action group forming. They are recognised by the FA. PL etc. They get invited in their own right to meetings which the club don't like as they want to just offer up their tightly controlled SAB. Whuisa problem has been lack of visibility/numbers not lack of commitment from the people involved, several are home and away STH and been going for years or lack of brains. It is a great shame that Andy has burned all bridges with them because whilst he has the numbers WHUISA had other strings to their bow and there is always more than one way to skin a cat.
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normannomates
2:55 Wed Mar 7
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Claret 2.43
No I don't. .
Bully boy shit..and have told him so.
Andy and Mickey have got further than any others..and is not over.
You think WHUISA or any other group could have gained this ?
What have WHUISA and CO ever actually fuckin done proactively?
March..it's your right..but no cunt is willing to take charge and organise it now..so
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ChesterRd
2:50 Wed Mar 7
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No, I'm not going to write off WHUISA just yet but I can see you are not a fan :-) They will never get the numbers Andy did but if anything it was the size of the monster that brought with it problems.
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